Posts by Designer Stubble

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Question for exjws who are now atheist..

by EndofMysteries in

this question is for athiests who had been jw's, and when leaving, had to pretty much start fresh (if most of your association had been jw's).. to help you better answer the question, here is first the reason i am asking it.

my whole life and assocation were jw's only.

when i left, it was at first being pretty isolated while making new friends/etc from scratch.

Designer Stubble

The community you descibed, seems something good - that I would not just write off. A lot of Atheists attend UU churches. Just saying.

In my case, leaving after having been a JW most of our lives, lead to loosing every last friend. There are no UU churches where we live and as an Atheist I do not want to expose the children to religion. In the five years we are out, we have slowly and gradually built a small circle of friends - from work, parents of our childrens friends, in the neighborhood, etc... But remains indeed an area in shich we somewhat struggle. We do some volunteer work and also find some satisfaction in that, with like-minded persons.

No silver bullet here - but true unconditional friendships take time.

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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

by I_love_Jeff in

i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

Designer Stubble

Because Jesus was COMPASSIONATE here and the organization is not. Many facing a JC were likely quoting from this scripture and the GB does not like that. With this gone from the Bible, the younger generation will soon not even know it was once in there - and they can DF without hesitation and compassion. It is a CULT - let's not forget that!

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Could we quantify how many posters their are from different nations ? Would you like to know ?

by smiddy in

maybe its just me , i`m just curious as to how many people on this site are from australia as i am .

how many from germany , italy , zambia , etc.

etc.. do two or three "countries " seem to dominate the threads ?

Designer Stubble

Posting from Amsterdam, Netherlands.

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To DA myself or to go to JC meeting, that is the question

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

i just got done with another visit at my home with two elders and even though i tried to say very little they took anything they could as a disagreement with them as enough to say they may call a jc meeting after they talk to the rest of the elder body.

so since they are planning on dfing me any way, i'm wondering if i should just write a letter or go through with their meeting?.

Designer Stubble

Get your DA letter ready and only hand it over if you are 100% sure you will be DFed - "You can't fire me, I quit" approach. There are some excellent examples available here or at JWR.

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2010 How To Rescue Your Loved One From The Watchtower!

by Atlantis in

2010 how to rescue your loved one from the watchtower.. (this book is already online here: http://cftf.com/rescue/ ).

click the link by the blue arrow.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/781uqp.

Designer Stubble

Thanks - very valuable

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Feb 2014 WT Study article

by molybdenum in

the caption under the picture in the first article.

hail christthe glorious king!says:.

birds will be called on to cleanse the earth (see paragraph 18).

Designer Stubble

And then ask yourself...

When was the last article the WTBTS wrote on "Cultivating the fruitage of the Spirit" or "Developing Christ-Like qualities and compassion"

Since leaving five years ago, I keep my eyes open, perhaps I have missed it, but I honestly cannot remmeber seeing any such.

I loved studying the Greatest Man book at the bookstudy back in the 80/90s - and now they have even cut Jesus' compassion out of their Bibles (eliminating John 8 were he states "he without sin cast the first stone")

Unfortunately this has gone all so gradual, that few recognize that they are in a destructive pharisee CULT, lead by mind-controlling power hungry leaders. They think they have "the truth" not realizing how far away from it, their organization really is.

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I'm Returing To Become A Jehovah's Witness Again

by Space Madness in

jw
friends

a little background, i faded in 2007 and have been out ever since.

i started studying at 18 and have no jw realitives.

i'm returing because my life is heading in the wrong direction.

Designer Stubble

If you think it is what you need, by all means go ahead. I wish you well, though I honestly doubt it will be sustainable. If you do go back, make sure to live "the truth a la carte", meaning follow YOUR conscience and what YOU want.

Some guidelines could be:

1. Do not carry a NO BLOOD card

2. Limit your FS as much as possible. Work only with the Bible. Forge your FS report to keep the elders at bay.

3. Check beforehand the material to be discussed. If you don't like it, stay home that day.

4. Do try to live as a Christian or Christ-Like and lead by example

5. Seek out those worthy and loving and make friendships with such persons - while keeping the gossipers and other unkind persons at a distance

6. Keep in mind that you have not signed up for life. If at any time it turns out to work differently, you are free to leave

7. Check in from time to time and keep us posted

Again wishing you best in life and hope it works out for you.

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YOU WILL NEVER SEE THESE ACTS EVER MENTIONED IN A WATCHTOWER PUBLICATION

by steve2 in

faking of hours in field service or dragging service time out by making coffee stops or driving for hours "between" household contacts are never frowned upon, let alone mentioned, in the publications.

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yet, in each congregation of jehovah's witnesses, to one degree or another, faking hours, padding time out with coffee stops and long journeys between opportunities to "witness" are endemic practices..

Designer Stubble

Interesting article on following your conscience when counting time. When I was in I did and did not see it fitting to count the time I spent studying with my children, as I saw that as my parental duty. However, this lead to me always handing in 8-9 hours of actual FS. The elders and CO spoke with me and said they could not appoint me, as I was not hitting the 10 hours required. When they found out I did not report my family study, they told me I should do this as if I did this for six months they could appoint me. I told them my rationale for not reporting it, and was told "then we cannot appoint you".

On hindsite I am glad they didn't, otherwise it would have made my fade (soon thereafter) more difficult.

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What's the weirdest health advice given by a JW?

by Julia Orwell in

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friends

from radio biola to a sister who said you can treat autism and ptsd with scented oils, jws have had some weird some weird ideas about medicine.

what gems have you heard?.

Designer Stubble

http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/radium.html

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Foreign language field - the curious Watchtower cutback?

by slimboyfat in

most of the recent watchtower cutbacks can be explained as money saving exercises: closing branches, paperback books, fewer pages in the magazines, sending bethelites home and so on.. but a few different posters have reported that the watchtower society are also cutting back on the foreign field ministry.

for many years foreign language congregations have been a major source of growth for the watchtower in many lands.

so why would they choose to scale it down?.

Designer Stubble

My best guess is that it is control. The foreign fields often attrack those who have troubles in the regular congregation. Also generally the elders here adhere less to the B&W rules of the WTBTS. Probably some higher-up person was ticked off by this and decided to get rid of the problem.